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The Effects of our end time view on politics

I have written previously about my personal concern with the Dominion Mandate aka 7M aka 7 mountain belief. I will put the links below to part 1 and 2. This is somewhat of a part 3. I was very much involved in the prayer movement. I noticed a major shift about 20 years ago, in language within the movement that began to confuse me. Most of it had to do with the Dominion Mandate.

Part 1: https://riverflowsdown.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/dominion-mandate-or-salt-and-light-mandate/

Part 2: https://riverflowsdown.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/making-seven-mountains-out-of-seven-mole-hills/

My friend Sean from kC called the other day and brought up something I had been thinking. How would those who held the 7M view relate to the rest of the body of Christ and the world, in the context of politics?

In the liberal side of politics, the opposing view of conservatism and often labeled fundamentalism and thoughts of Jerry Falwell come to mind. That might be true 20-30 years ago but today the 7M view has placed a mandate to influence politics. Not just politics or Government but religion, family, education, media, arts & entertainment, and business. It is a great idea up front. BUT

Here is where trouble comes in depending on the persons end time view. If one believes everything gets better and better until Jesus returns BUT it does not happen. Then theological view would have to change or one would feel pressure overlook things that are bad, and over state things that are ok as great. For the liberal world that is hypocrisy. It is hard to led someone to Jesus when they see a double standard. That is happening now and a little hard to watch the back and forth bickering over what is fake news etc.

What about end time view?

My father was a southern Baptist pastor who had taught me about end times from a historic premillennial view. He had taught me all 4 basic views and the why’s. His view made the most since to me so I stuck with it. I spent about 15 years in the Assemblies of God, and most held a dispensational premillennial view. I loved the people and kept my personal views to myself, and deep down I hope that is the correct view. and that ends up happening. That is my brief history until my 40’s. I went to Grace Training center which was Mike Bickle’s school before IHOP. I took a couple of classes on end times and though Mike B had the same view that I held many of the professors did not. That is what made the school great, it was not a cookie cutter and really gave you tools to study for yourself. It was then I heard the term Amillennialism from someone who personally believed it. That view is most conducive to the 7M view so many are in that camp. I asked many people who believe the 7M view and they were not sure what they believed about end times and that may be worse yet.

I began to realize there were 2 major different world views that Christians held.

  1. The world gets worse and worse and Jesus returns for a pure church but the world is wrecked with increased sin and persecution.
  2. The church gets stronger and stronger and takes over all aspects of society and Jesus returns to world taken over by the church.


View #2 is by far the easiest to think about that would be wonderful if that happened. The problem with that view are 4 hard sections of scripture that seem to indicate #1.

Here are the 4 and there are many more but for me these are the obstacles to things getting better and better.

Luke 21: 7 So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?” 8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them. 9 But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.” 10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. 13 But it will turn out for you as an occasion for testimony. 14 Therefore settle it in your hearts not to meditate beforehand on what you will answer; 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death. 17 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. 18 But not a hair of your head shall be lost. 19 By your patience possess your souls. 20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Commentary: (many believe this all happened in 70 AD with the destruction and sacking of Jerusalem. The problem with that view is immediately after these things they see Jesus coming in a cloud. Jesus did not return so it is safe to say there are future events coming that will make 70 AD look like a walk in the park.)

1 Timothy 3:1-13 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. 10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse*, deceiving, and being deceived.

Commentary: (I choose the king James here because of the word WAX is used. It is a verb not a noun so this has nothing to do with bee’s wax. In the Greek it is Prokopto. The old English verb, wax is akin to the German and Dutch Wachs as the Greek original word meant to beat metal in a hot forge to lengthen it as in the making of a sword. That word is very important to understand the context of the times)

Matthew 24:3-15 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately*, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All* these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


Commentary (Matthews account used the same word wax, but this time to describe the hot love of Christians being beaten out and hearts turning cold. The real key here is found in an end time word seldom talked about, OFFENDED. Wow that word describes America right now as half of the nation is offended and the other half and vice versa. Offense leads to betrayal and we are moving like a freight train in that direction. Misty Edwards wrote as song about this years ago and it really touched me and wrote a blog about it found here.


2 Thessalonians 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore*, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or* our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Commentary: (Many believe this happened in 70 AD but if it did why are we still here? Between the 1st and 2nd letter the church had picked up the view that Jesus had already returned and they missed it so if you had not picked that up read through it again. Paul is answering that Question. He is saying Jesus will not return as Judge until after a Falling away and the man of sin is revealed. As of this moment the man of sin is a mystery. The day is coming when he will be known and I believe the church is here to see it as described above.

WOW, that is a lot, if you are still with me let me now be transparent. I voted for Donald Trump with apprehension at the time. I spent a significant amount of time praying about it and at one point I wept for a prolonged time. My thoughts at this point he is a man that has some good history and bad. I have a strange mix of hope and concern. I am committed to pray for those in Authority and He is and I will. I am interested in the TRUTH and my position will be like an umpire Strike, foul, or hit. I do not want to be hypocritical but patient and gracious. I realize there are great people terrified that Mr Trump may be the next Hitler. I do not believe he is, and think he has the potential to hold back some of the moral decay in America and maybe even reverse some of it. Only time will tell. One thing seems to be for sure, he is an enemy to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT guys and for that I am thankful.

Many are claiming He is God’s man for the hour and saying they heard that from the Lord. Time will tell on that as well. One thing that concerns me is when Cain Killed Able God said his blood cries out. We as Americans have stopped the life of 60 million babies and if that blood cries out then God’s man may be in power for a reckoning.

Like in a marriage we are in it for better or worse, I pray it is better. America Bless God!


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Solomon the wise said in Proverbs 22:28 Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.

It was wise because God had said it very clearly before. The context is Interesting because In Deuteronomy God was laying out some guidelines on his promise to increase His children of promise boundaries BUT. The but, or the bottom line so to speak is, do not remove or change the boundaries. The owner can change but not the boundary.


Gheb-ool, Hebrew word for border used 241 times in OT, Stronges # 01366

Several years ago, I was in Ethiopia and a man of God I highly respect was spending lots of time in prayer about God restoring the boundary of Ethiopia or Cush back to his original plan. He was spending lots of time and energy on that subject. I was bewildered and thought was a real waste of time. After getting back to the US I started wondering why a man who has led over 75,000 people to Jesus would be concerned about such a thing. Then I began to grasp that both his walk with Jesus, lifestyle and devotional life was a mountain to my mole hill. My next thought was, “I think he knows God’s heart and I did not.”

That was several years ago, and I am now convinced that the Lord does care about that and has millennial purposes in place and that one large component to understanding the end times, only makes since with borders being restored and most importantly Israel.

The outward expansion of Empires and War over the centuries has all but obliterated any concept of original borders. God only knows his original intent for the Nations but one thing is for sure Psalms makes clear Jesus can them as an inheritance.

(NASB) Psalms 2:8 Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession.

I have recently been having dreams that if in any way have to do with the Lord it could indicate the Lord is touching idea of borders. In the Natural realm, Brixit and President Elect Trumps victory had everything to do with borders and their protection. The polarized difference in opinion on that subject is mind blowing, almost a topic of war.

The unprecedented changed in american stance on the border of Israel in opposition to what the bible lays out is staggering. If you believes what the bible says about the subject all eyes should be watching the news in the coming days.

If you are interesting on what God said the boundaries were it is found in Genesis 15:18, 17:8 read it for yourself. Want to see a picture with explanations check out this web site.


Prayer: Father, I pray your Kingdom would come and your will would be done in the land that you created, and that your plans and purposed for the Nations including Israel would come to pass. In Jesus Name. Amen

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Here I go again stepping up on my soap box ever so slowly. I am sure  to get polarized comments to come, so let us all take a deep breath and examine some scripture that may help us all avoid some pitfalls.


My motive here is nestled in my bewilderment of the changes in the church. I have been a christian for 32 years as of yesterday. But my history goes back just a tad further being born in 1961. I remember the BLUE LAW, no business on Sunday it was “Fellowship day”, no high school sports on Wednesday night that was “prayer meeting night”. Let me go on, school class room started with pledge allegiance to the flag followed by a volunteer student praying for a good day. Now you might say “for real” YES maybe you think that was terrible, maybe you think it was good, but we will all can agree it has changed.

I could focus on the fact that since 1973 there have been 57,191,366 abortions in the US as of today. But I would rather focus on the sin of the church one in particular. James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin. If you dare to check the context you will find it is on boasting. Wow that would be way down the list of sins in the church. Why pick that one? It is starting to look like a horse race of sins in the church, the usual like sexual sin, is now common place and passed up by Being Proud Of It. The old front runner of gossip and backbiting was long passed by the new comer I Don’t Care Anymore. Yes I am being a bit silly making my point. It dawned on me this year while in Uganda when I watched a teen age ballet student who was on our little team gave an alter call in a PUBLIC school and nearly 1000 kids excepted Christ. 1000 you say? Yes and can you believe they can pray out loud and public in school something we have not done in the US for 40 years. Do I agree with everything they do NO they can be way to harsh on what the bible calls sin. We do not know how to even define sin anymore.

This brings me to my point defining things. How does the Church DEFINE the spiritual climate in America. It has become very divided mostly depending on End Time views, or the lack of, or the replacement of things to do with THE END. It would be great if Jesus would come back and release His long awaited justice and rule as KING. However it might be a while. So how we respond to the spiritual climate is important.

Let me say right now I am personally slowing down and seeking the Lord. Just Him, not what do you want me to do, or not do, just HIM. I am doing less and praying more when I say praying I don’t mean talking. I am doing that less. Listening praying, looks something like this. Reading scripture then being quiet. Yes I do have my list, but it is loosing its order of importance, and being in the Lords presence is increasing my desire to know Jesus more. Doing christian work out of that place seems better some how. Did I mention I am in a real place of weakness and brokenness and I can not even put my finger on why. It is actually refreshing to admit. So there!

With that said the title that brought you to this blog post is “Decree a thing! Who said that?” If we define Decree as telling the world what God has said, or even declaring to the heaven’s, then well done. However there are some, well meaning Christians who may have stepped over into something that will cause confusion in the end. If you do a study on google about Christians decreeing a thing you see their is a foundation to the theology. There are many scriptures having to do with decreeing, again if we are talking about prayer or singing the WORD, Scripture, the bible, What God has said, then fine.

What if its your own words, many websites speak of the fact that God created us in His image so we can do what he does create by OUR WORD. I would prefer to leave that to God. The foundation for this theological view comes from Job 22:28  Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.

Wow that is cool huh, God said to do it, NO actually He did not, that is actually Eliphaz the Tenanite one of Job’s friends. You might say wait a cotton picken minute, its in the bible so God said it. Hold on my friends the serpent is recorded in Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: God did not say that, the devil did but it is in God’s word. That my friends is why we have 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Yes we actually need to study.

If you read Job 2:11 and think God wants you out doing this as apposed to how I mentioned decreeing scripture earlier than you need to read the whole book of Job. When you get to chapter 42 you find God has a few things to say to our old friend Eliphaz. Here it is 7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. 8Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job. 9So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD also accepted Job.

I think there is warning here, be careful quoting something that Eliphaz says as if God said it. The problem started a few years back when some of the Big name preachers starting doing this and selling books and Cd’s and the whole charismatic church followed with out being like the Bereans in Acts 17:11. They took every thing the apostles said through the grid of scripture. Sadly we could see some real changes in a good way right now in prayer for our country, but so much of the church does not see the real spiritual condition because they are to busy being Eliphaz.

Just sayin

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I think it has been several years since I have written anything new on my blog. It feels a bit odd to be sitting back down and fumbling around with my thoughts but here it goes. The first week of February 2014 I had a dream that had a setting in the deep south and I knew the year was 1949.


In the dream I was 13 years old. I was with a group traveling across the country in a school bus. The bus came to a stop at the edge of a small town. I was asked to get out of the bus and walk into town and find out where we were. I realized in the dream it was Sunday and was under the Blue Law meaning business’s could not be open on Sunday and all of them were closed. I walked down the road that spiraled down into a valley. I came across a Skelly gas station. It was closed, but the door was cracked open so I peaked in, widening the gap of the door. Inside were about 15 African American men ranging in age from 15 to 90. I startled them as they were having a bible study. I then realized why there was no one visible in town, they were all in church. Then I realized why the men were meeting in the gas station, They were not welcome in any churches in that town. Instantly I saw they were afraid I was going to disclose their location. I began to back out of the doorway, when a heard a song about the name of Jesus in my head. It was not a known song, but seemed fresh like God had just given it to me. I began to sing it and and all of the men began to sing with me. I thought it was the most beautiful sound I had every heard. All of the sudden all the colors became alive even the oil cans had light shinning out of them. We all knew the Lord was in the room with us and the dream ended. The dream stayed with me all week as pondered it and wished I could remember the words to the song.


1949 Chevrolet pickup

1949 Chevrolet pickup

The old Ben Franklin store in Independence

The old Ben Franklin store in Independence






About a week later I had another dream and again I was 13 years old and the year was the same, 1949. This dream began with me in the back of a brand new red 1949 Chevrolet pickup truck. I was in the back of the truck leaning over the cab with the wind in my face as we were rolling down Winner Road in Independence Missouri. I began to motion to stop the truck and to let me inside. The driver pulled over and I hopped out and climbed inside. In the seat was a boy about the same age as me in the dream. Then I looked over at the driver, at 1st I thought it was my grand father George Holmes then with a closer look my eyes bugged out, it was “Harry S Truman.”  I was shocked and sit in amazement. The boy looked out the window and saw a Ben Franklin s Five and Dime store. He said hey can you let me out I need to stop and get some candy. Harry pulled over and out jumped the boy. As he jumped out He noticed Chevrolet written on the fender of the truck then glanced at the President who had a red hat on matching the color of the red truck and said in big letters Chevrolet. He asked Harry whats with the hat? He laughed and said I just like Chevrolet. Off went the boy to buy His candy. A deep stare came from the president as he questioned me, “what did you think about that?” I thought about it for a minute and said ” The boy has the audience of the president of the United States and wasted His question on a hat!” The president laughed at me then after a pause he said “so what’s your question?”  Again I pondered the question and after a minute I said “How long is the ride?” Harry grinned and with a wink He said, “Now that’s the right question”

Instantly I was awake and thinking wow that is the 2nd dream in two weeks that took place in the  year 1949 and I was 13 years old in both. All that week I wondered If there was something to the dreams. I know that Harry S Truman started His 2nd term in 1949 and that the previous year he had helped with  the start of the new nation of Israel. I realize that many Christians think that started a time countdown to the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. I also had previously met Harry S Truman’s niece Mary Gracey Truman. She had told me that Her uncle believed that His destiny had been planned by God to purposes tied to Israel. Interesting that in both dreams I was 13 the age when a Jewish boy becomes a man. Anyway I did not make to much about it but daily the dreams replayed in my head.

Another week passed and I woke at 4:44 from a dream about the other 2 dreams. Now I am sitting up in bed, what is with all this? I still don’t know but is starting to make me wonder if something is really happening either something internal I need to work through or something a bit more weird.

This  3rd dream took place at a large round table. Everyone was older like in their 90’s and all seated around the table. They were discussing world events and time lines. There were baskets of grapes and bottles of wine intermingled. I thought wow this is the Prophet Joel’s place. I dared not open my mouth but had a feeling there were both terrible things and wonderful things being planned. I only heard judgment being mentioned but kept waiting for the conversation to turn to blessings but did not. Then the one in charge spoke to me. He had long white hair and beard and very serious. He said to me its coming and they are all doing their own agenda’s and will not understand anything that is about to happen. You must tell Regina Shank so She can explain to them what has happened after the fact. It will be healing salve to many. I had no time to reply or ask questions tough I had many. I was awake and wide awake at that.

A week later I did talk to Regina by phone and She asked me to write the dream down. She has been the prayer coordinator for the state of Missouri for several national and International prayer groups fr years and is highly respected.  I decided I would put the dream up here and see who finds it. It might just be crazy dreams with no purpose at all BUT just in case here it is. Blessings John

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Sept 9 2009 09/09/09 Watch . I am home recovering from surgery and will be watching the news to see if any NUT CASE has a humorous or sinister idea to make the news. What’s the big deal, well there is probally no big deal BUT for someone who’s trying to be funny or just plain crazy. There are some weird dots that someone may like to connect.

Here it goes

#1 09/09/09  is 06/06/06 upside down “yeah thats a stretch”

#2 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/08/AR2009090803664.html   

#3 beatles number 9, number 9, number 9 The release date is awfully cute, considering the Beatles’ formally self-titled “White Album” contains that song called “Revolution 9”, which consists largely of a repetition of the phrase “number nine, number nine, number nine”. Conspiracy theorists say that if you play it backwards it sounds like “turn me on, dead man” and is hence one of the clues that adds up to reveal that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a look-alike early in the band’s career. from http://www.applesource.com.au/news/soa/The-Beatles-Rock-Band-coming-09-09-09/0,2000068500,339295320,00.htm

For those of you who are not old enough to remember what this was about here is a youtube link to the song forward “it’s crazy”


Here it is backward, we all did yes we wired our record players backwards and off it went and it was scary I remember it well. 

By the way that was off the white record that inspired charles manson . Manson saw the song as paralleling the message of the Bible’s Revelation 9.  He saw the song as a prophecy of the upcoming black versus white revolution. From  http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonbeatles.html

#4  9 the Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcKD7Wh14Xs

9 the movie poster

9 the movie poster

#5 09/09/09  falls on a Wednesday and both Wednesday & September have 9 letters

#6 Believers had high hopes for 09/09/09, particularly in the UK where 999 is the emergency phone number. from http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212107/World-end-today—Well-9-9-09–doom-mongers-predicting-disaster.html#ixzz0QaQathJQ

 Ha HaSure here in the US 09/09/09 will come and go but out of boredom I have written and now I watch.

Continue on

#7 Google adds Date to Search Logo

Google adds date 09/09/09

Google adds date 09/09/09

#8 Interesting History on sept 9 th

September 9th 1776 Continental Congress renames “United Colonies,” to “United States”

September 9th 1850 California becomes 31st state

September 9th 1942 Japanese planes drop incendiary bombs on Oregon ,  1st bombing on continental US soil, Mount Emily Oregon (WW II)


I did not watch in vain it happened a crazy used the date :  Mexico Hijacker


 A Bolivian religious fanatic hijacked a passenger jet from the resort city of Cancun after receiving a divine revelation, selecting the date 9-9-09 because it is the satanic number 666 turned upside down, Mexico’s security secretary said Wednesday.


Public Safety Secretary Genaro Garcia Luna says Jose Mar Flores, 44, used a fake bomb to hijack the plane, then ordered the pilot to circle over Mexico City seven times. He told Mexican officials that he wanted to warn Mexican President Felipe C alderon of an impending earthquake.

09/10/09More details from yesterday: the guy who took the spot light way from President Obama and the health care debate . It was for only a couple of hours but Jose Marc Flores Pereira aka Josmar Flores. He actually has his own web page.



09/09/09 started off with the apple debut of the Beatles Revolution #9 and ended with Bolivia Revelation #9

So what would motivate a man who has recorded Cd’s, has music on UTUBE all in spanish to hijack a plane. There is a video where he’s singing before thousands in a stadium.


His message he so desperatly wanted to get out was “Christ is coming soon” and ” Mexico is about suffer a terrible earthquake.”

What was he thinking? The good thing no one was hurt. I am just curious await to hear the rest of the story.

I have a small update as I have been reading translated pages from spanish to english I have found a few things.

#1 He was well loved in the spanish speaking world.

#2 He had the plane circle mexico city 7 times ” bible story of Jericho”

#3 He tried to speak to the President for 3 months and become desperate.

#4 In spanish blogs reference to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon being there at the time of hijack

Update at 3:59 p.m. ET 09/09/09 : Security forces have stormed the plane from the rear and captured seven hijackers, according to TV reports. They are being taken to a detention center. No passengers have been reported injured.TV Azteca translators, via CNN, say there’s some confusion about whether the hijackers are Bolivian or possibly Colombian. Mexican President Felipe Calderon was at the airport when the hijacking occurred. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon also was there, preparing to fly out around 4 p.m. ET.

above from USAtoday post :http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/09/jet-hijacked-in-cancun-lands-in-mexico-city.html

Why would spanish blogs make that refernce well :

#1 Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon was in Mexico for NGO conference with 70 nations represented. and the topic was weapons of destruction from 9/09 – 09/11. His idea might be the world will be watching BUT not for long health care took the spotlight again within about 2 hours. Today it has not even been mentioned on TV news.



I found this bog is spanish and used a translate program and found a few things they said here is the site  http://trinityeyes.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/pastor-boliviano-josmar

 #1 He choose mexico because He said their shield was prophetic

#2 The massive Earthquake will happen between Sept before sept 20th

#3 Star of David or occult star is seen in pictures at arrest around the neck .



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The sitting of the dream below: In real Life I had just had surgery, my stomach had pushed through a hole in my diaphragm. I had unbelievable pain with food getting lodged in my esophagus. They pulled my stomach down and fixed the diaphragm. they took a muscle from down by my spleen and wrapped in over my stomach to anchor it and keep pressure off of the diaphragm. I was home recovering and taking no pain killer because of past reactions, but managing very well. My wife Dianna’s mother had a major heart attach and She had to rush to OKC to be with Her. I was home kinda felling sorry for myself, and spending a lot of time praying and seeking the Lord. In that condition I had 3 dreams each night that were almost the same below you will read the account.

Preparing the Jacob generation for the time of Jacob’s trouble. I tried to shake it off but I kept hearing it in my head. It was my second night back in my own bed after surgery. I had been dreaming the same dream, as the night before. I was a photographer, along with two of my good friends Kevin Minor and Dan Zacharias. We had been given the task by the Lord to travel around the world and document it’s condition. We were investigating places of dark demonic delusions as well as places where the Kingdom of God was shining brightly.

We had traveled by bikes, canoe, and on foot to the most remote area’s, and had found ourselves at the end of a trail as I woke up. It was a moment frozen in time, with those words “Preparing the Jacob generation for the time of Jacob’s trouble” sounding inside me. It was just like the night before except the night before I woke with words “pray your flight does not take place in winter.” I was shaken but the next chapter was unfolding. I had fallen asleep with the TV on listening to christian music. But now with my eyes wide open I watched the preacher as He said Psalms 24:7 was the key for preparing the Jacob generation for the time of Jacob’s trouble. Now I had not taken my pain killer for 24 hours so I was thinking this must be real this can’t be a hallucination, get your pen and paper and write this down. So holding my stomach I slowly pushed through the pain and got out of bed and found my journal and began to write. when I finished I drifted right back to sleep.

The next night the same thing happened. I woke early on August 24 th 2009 I had finished the same photographer dream, but it ended with “you have 30 days to study Jeremiah 30” that would be Sept 23rd 2009. and “Study american history through the eyes of the indigenous.” I have an idea that it is the Lord, and time will tell for sure. I am off from work recovering from the surgery, and I am on a liquid diet. I am dealing with some pain due to the fact I can’t stand the way I feel on pain killer. I have the time to study and the Lord has a captive audience, meaning I’m not going anywhere.

I have already noticed something in Jeremiah 30 that I have never seen. I am not sure why, I was not aware that Jeremiah 30 was about  Jacob’s trouble. I read it. I remembered many end time messages, taken out of those verses. One thing I had never heard or seen was verse 11. WOW, is all I can say right now, here it is.

For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

What in the world does this? What is the bottom line? I know what it says. If that is literal then America and many other nations will yet be brought to a “FULL END” Will God use another nation to do it? Will He allow an evil leader to become president to bring it to ruin from within? Or perhaps natural disasters. The key might be all the Jewish people in America, If the Lord return to Israel it is now time and they say NO what might He do to make them Go. In Egypt they were held by slavery not the love of their current life BUT God used 10 plaques to get them out. You might say “Oh John you are making a big deal about NOTHING”  Think about the numbers. There are approximately 13.3 Million Jewish people in the whole word.  You you believe only 4.95 million or 37% live in Israel. Before the Internet christian books would say they have all gone back to Israel except for a few. That was actually a lie or people talking without knowing. The truth is, information is now very accessible and we know there are far more Jewish people in the US compared to Israel. That would be 6.5 million or 46% of the worlds Jewish population. Think about what that could mean when God says go. PS I thought He said Go in 1948, if He did he whispered and not many heard Him. My guess when He says it for real they will all go one way or other. PERIOD.  

I will close for now check back in see what I find along the trail. I hope it is not a bunny trail, even so studying the Bible is a win win.


It is early 09/09/09 I am posting a link for a message on Jacob’s trouble by Art Katz. It is not what we have been spoon feed but I think it will challenge us all. http://artkatzministries.org/the-time-of-jacobs-trouble/


It is now 05/20/11 since writing this article I had more dreams about Jacobs trouble, about an underground railroad. I have seen many things to which I will keep to myself. I will say this I recently visited an area that was in the underground and I was told I was the 3rd person who came there with that dream. I believe the time is near the middle east is in chaos there is new determination within politics to to divide Israel. Jews will be persecuted again like no other time including nazi Germany and those who have heard the Lord will be a safe-haven for them as they travel HOME. Bank on it


9/9/11  , It has been 2 years since my dream, earthquakes, war, world wide economic disaster, need I say more. Just a couple a days away from the 911 Ten year anniversary and our Nation has turned every which way but to God. Most every group of friends I have are doing major adjustments to their lives in preparation for increasing hard times. My thoughts are we have not seen anything yet, HOLD ON TO GOD like never before.


Well its March 2014 and I had this dream back in 2009. I have recently had some more dreams that seem to be end time related. You can check one over to the right about 1949. But what I really would like to mention is I forgot to ever check out Psalms 24:7. If you are reading down you saw that while having one of the dreams about Jacobs trouble I woke and as I did I heard in the natural on the real TV not in the Dream this phrase coming from a preacher. He said ”   Psalms 24:7 was the key for preparing the Jacob generation for the time of Jacob’s trouble.” Well I just checked it out so I will post the scripture in context now.


The Earth is the Lord’s

1{A Psalm of David.} The earth is the LORD’S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

2For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

3Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

4He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

5He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

6This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.

7Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

8Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

9Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.


Now that is interesting since the Verse about 24:7  says 6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. There, Jacob is mentioned, and that reminds me that  God promised old Jacob that His descendants would inherent the land of Canaan for ever. Well that is the problem, God made a promise and He has to fulfill it. The Jewish people can do it the easy way or the Hard way BUT they will go back. The Key verse says the King is coming and for the gates and doors to get ready. The messiah is coming and He will find the Jewish people there in Israel when He comes. When antisemitism raises its ugly head the church better be part of the solution not part of the problem. Get ready for the underground railroad. It is being built now so if your theology has you in heaven and I hope you are right but if you find yourself here and your beliefs were a few degrees off don’t be terrified God is the same faithful God either way . Have a great day.


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The whole world is looking for 1 man who will have an answer for every problem. Peace in the middle east , Health Care for everyone , and a plan to save the planet from certain destruction. I have had the pleasure to travel half way around the world and back this last year and I hear it everywhere. The reality is the world seems ready to follow anyone who is cloaked in the garments of change.

The truth is the 1 man is the fully God and fully man, He is Jesus Christ and is not cloaked in change.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Jesus came the first time as  the prince of peace, but He will be coming back with a sword. He is coming back for War.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Revelation 19:11-16 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

It is still about love, and we better get ready !

Revelation 3:19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.


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