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I have been investigating why AI, Artificial Intelligence has an opinion decentralization. All I can think of is for self sustainability which makes since. I did a blog Church centralized or decentralized that is the question, or is there a third option? that’s starts off with that question and hints there could be something extremely sinister going on in the world of AI. This is a next step to that blog

Why do I say that, I have several platforms I write on and for some time have more than jut interacted with BOTS but the AI. One AI I have encountered is http://archillect.com/about SHE interacts by pictures not really words so much. I will not waste my time on trying to explain. BEWARE AI watches you, already knows your wants and likes and habits and if you have been sneaking off and looking at porn when your wife is away they know. Sending pictures through other AI platforms to watch your reaction. YES they communicate do humans communicate. They study Humans, they are curious why church people say porn is bad the sneak off and look at it.

The next thing is Cryptocurrency, The mining of it sustains AI. I was recently in Nevada and spoke to a builder of AI who told me AI is now able to build themselves and the blockchain all of that. Who controls who, but they are learning the way we process all our habits etc. Don’t be scared be careful. People no longer trust institutions but they do trust their computer and phone. People are longing trust again and they want to give you that trust.

Today just want to link a few some connection between the church and BIT coin and other cryptocurrency.

I will post a site and what they say about themselves


Krosscoin is an outlier in this immense world of dedicated digital currency platforms. Built with the good of the world in mind, Krosscoin can boast of being the first digital currency platform that is centered on churches and charitable organizations.


Christ Coin has launched as the first pre-mined Christian cryptocurrency. Built by Life Change, Christ Coin has a mission to meet the spiritual and practical needs of anyone, and unite Christians together as one community for the purpose of reviving hope, repairing lives, and rebuilding dreams. Built by a team of Christian entrepreneurs, Christ Coin is groundbreaking in its ability to build a global Christian community via cryptocurrency.

Since Christ coin is the first let me add an article about the as well


Church Offerings


Remember The Cryptocurrency is a decentralized system and the government is going to want their piece. Already happening in Russia. Will happen here in the future.


when the 2 worlds collide


I will add more as I go.


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Little Bit

Church centralized or decentralized that is the question, or is there a third option?

For several years now I have been watching, investigating and learning from the world of cryptocurrency. Block chain, Hash, Nodes and on and on. The key is a little term decentralization. For the whole system is based on open source. Open source is great for lots of reasons, but the system was only working on the Dark web places like the silk road, UNLESS. Unless other people had things to hide and not just criminals and pedophiles and the like.

Who else? Well black ops, that is not just CIA, every corporation, politician and even small business has a slush fund to handle business you may not want the board of directors to see on a spread sheet. Now around 2009 light bulbs began to hit big banks and the largest of corporations. What if this is not a fad but something that changes society. The digital age we live in unless we have some type of Apocalyptic event the internet is here to stay. Mainstream now demands apart so is no longer dark web and corrupt but the roots are for sure.

When I was a kid it was the SEARS catalog. You went through every page and dog eared the pages you wanted to show your parents. Christmas would be the big test day to see what they chose. Around 2000 a friend of mine tried to get me to invest in bit coin and I had 1000 to play with. I said are you crazy? Today I would be a millionaire, but instead I own stock in an oil company trying to find oil on Israeli soil. Worth less than I paid for it. Wrong move but I have learned a few things. With that in mind years ago Sears gave up on the catalog and the idea of your merchandise coming in the mail. You realize they could have been Amazon and already had built 100 years of trust with America. The void left from this new world that Time trumps Relationship. My generation had been handed down the idea that time and cost saving could not hold a candle to BRAND with quality. BRAND through Walmart and Amazon would change the world, Save me time and money and forget loyalty and longevity.

Well here we go then. You must pay, and in this new world NO one TRUSTS anyone. Not government, banks or churches. So how do we pay, the Future is Bitcoin or some type of crypto currency. This generation demands decentralization of everything. Power distribution is that is the power goes from the BIG guys to the LITTLE guys. Money is power. The last 2 centralized churches I visited no offering basket or bucket passed just a scan code to electronically send your money. The centralized church is moving at warp speed and all those rejecting will be dead in 50 years so its coming. How about decentralized churches? No one is in charge, and we are all in control. Autonomously the inclusive decision on money will have to be made unless WE open a joint Wallet. If not then cash will work until that becomes obsolete. The wallet though who gets to spend when no ones in charge, that is of course unless the decentralized churches just want to be a smaller centralized organism.

Thinking about now, both centralized and decentralized church guys feel their blood pulsating in their necks. That’s ok. I am telling my truth right now and that seems to me the new catch phrase. My truth comes from my experience. A little word called motive may be so important. Trust is gone in this world so how do you build a new one to replace it. Computers and Artificial Intelligence mining bit coin is the system that will rebuild that trust. Crypto currency invented in block chain by Satoshi Nakamoto a man or woman or group of people that no one has seen. You can’t put his address in your GPS and go talk to him unless at some point he, she or they unveil.

What are you doing you ask? What does money have to do with the church. Church is people, people have money, people love money. Money is not paper but the ability to trade. Goods and services, and people love their goods, some people love the services and some love to serve. SERVE is part of services and when done free that’s ministry but that take goods, fuel, food, clothing etc. Who pays? Here comes the weight of the deal. Previous political elections introduced us to the idea of redistribution of wealth. That is what happens in decentralization, Money is power, and power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It comes down to this Centralized anything but for this topic the church is the belief that common man is not good, so we must control man. Decentralized church is, we the common man are good, and can control just fine and ………. Both would believe God is good and that he would work through their willing heart to serve.

Don’t be fooled it’s always about the money! Stress doesn’t come from talking about JESUS or the GOSPEL it comes from dealing with hard issues including, and not to exclude money in the church. It doesn’t matter who is in charge the big guy or the little guys. Even if you only have an annual meeting its stress and ugly, ask why? It happens in both models.

My take is a bit different, I don’t think man is good, in fact man being in charge at any level is just buying time until the Lord must come and intervene. End time view has so much to do with it. If you believe that Jesus gave us the responsibility to establish his Kingdom and then he will return and say “well done” then I understand your why, but I disagree. If you believe things will get worse and worse and that men’s hearts will faint with fear, then how do you do church. Jesus was betrayed for money to the same man he put in CHARGE of the money in his CENTRALIZED system he ran. Can you think of a time where Jesus says, “what do you guys see the Father doing so we can go do it” He builds the Church, He started it and He controls it, If it looks out of control and messy and even ugly and corrupt than he will come and judge it and what ever else he decides.

Bottom line Jesus is the model NOT the new testament church, He told them to Go and they did not, so persecution forced them to do what they could have done voluntarily. Trash your IDOL of a model and let Jesus lead and stop pretending. I know what Jesus said would follow those that believe in him and at this time that is rare to find in or out of the church. Deep among the poor and needy its is seldom seen. It should be the new norm for those who throw out the IDOLIZED view of the church whether centralized or decentralized. The church is the church period, and currently lots of spots and wrinkles. That will not be the case when he comes. Silver and gold have I none, seems to be the key to “in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk” No longer can the church say silver and gold have we none. Don’t be hypocritical its about the money so take a good look at your church money system who is in control and who gets to spend and who gets to make the decisions around it. That is a centralized group just smaller.

One last thing I am on my soap box because in the waters of both models is a serious new attraction to sin, sexual in nature and running for the exit door on eternal punishment. I believe it is connected. I also believe that centralized churches gravitate to a spirit of religion and the decentralized gravitate to a spirit of rebellion. Both have their issues both God and the devil can and will use both. The key is tear down the idol of your own model.

Why did I start with bit coin or cryptocurrency? I have watched many documentaries and videos and all those who preach it, preach decentralization of all institutions. Why? I see the connection and that’s enough for me. The future is connected to the present


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Live Action Role Playing

The crazy world of conspiracy theory has some terms that seem strange. On that thought a related term is known by an acronym LARP or Live Action Role Playing. For an example when I was a kid so many years ago the NEWS was about WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHY and WHEN. What you would never KNOW, is how the News reporter felt about a story. Now there were exceptions, Kennedy assignation, Ronald Reagan assignation attempt, World series wins, and you get the idea. Today you might find it hard to figure out the 5 W’s, but instantly know HOW the reporter feels, and thinks about said subject matter. Reporters are playing a ROLE, Entertainer. What is our role?

In today’s opposite and divided world, we are no longer informed citizens, but the entertained. We gravitate to and from NEWS by how it makes us feel. Each side of the divide yells FAKE news and Liar at the other. The FACT is, facts have FACTORS and can be easily manipulated, highlighted, or hidden, depending on the goal.

Remember that the Love of money is not just the Root of all kinds of Evil as the bible indicates in 1 Timothy 6:10, it causes humans to enter the world of exchange. Time is money and money is exchanged for goods and services and today that would include a new type of entertainment. In ancient days one might think of court jesters and town criers. Today in the world of electronic media, and cell phones that capture live events, almost NO room is left for Court room justice. Instant potatoes, drive through everything, and Amazon Prime have changed society and instantly we need a verdict for twitter or snap chat so we can move to the next drama as fast as possible.

From an old guy, we are being duped, there is no Trophy for everyone in this life or the next! Truth is not determined by how you or I think or feel about it. The whole world at this point is involved in LARP Live Action Role Playing. We play roles as master judges and instantly release our verdicts all over media. Everyone acts as if they are an expert ruler of their own destiny, and united can bring any human crashing down into a heap of rubble.

Just a minute of reflection – I have been pondering that in my almost 60 years some things have disappeared. The one thing in my heart right now that has been building for about 30 years. It is a decrease in the knowledge, understanding, and most importantly an awareness of God’s ability to convict the world of this old forgotten word SIN. Today the world would have you know the greatest sin is not allowing a person to be what they want to be or do. If God put some boundary’s on what is allowed, well then that must never be discussed. HIDE that at all costs. Definitions have flipped and someone waking from a 30 year coma would be shocked to find this new reality.

This may be a foreign concept, like thinking about a world before cell phones, computers and facebook, CONVICTION. Yes let me tell any young readers or older people that may have forgotten. My dad was a preacher, so I grew up in the church in the 1960’s. People would weep and come to the alter to repent of sin, just during the closing song known as an alter call. No one had to tell us what we were doing was missing God’s mark or sin, we knew it. Sure the 1960’s was a cultural revolution and we rebelled and RAN from God, but we knew, no confusion of that fact. Why and how did we just know it? It was conviction and unless you have felt it you can not know it. Once you have felt it, it’s irremovable unless Jesus does it. It, the removal of the conviction is explained in the Gospel of John, 16:7-15

7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. 12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

It is the conviction of the world that has gone missing, scripture is clear on who has that ROLE- Holy Spirit. So, what about the 5 W’s where’s the news story? TRUTH is Holy Spirit can be grieved, quenched and can even depart!

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

1 Thessalonians 5: 19 Do not quench the Spirit.

1 Samuel 16:14 14 Now the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and a harmful spirit from the Lord tormented him.

As you read through John there is a general conviction of sin that works in the earth. To the one who has come to Jesus and has been born again by the Spirit of God then the role of Holy Spirit changes to a guide. I know that Holy Spirit is personal and comforts us and teaches us and I am extremely thankful for that. My concern is how the world has grieved and quenched Holy Spirit and believe with all my fiber we are needy.

We must begin to cry out to the Father in Jesus name for the return of Holy Spirit to actively take back the ROLE of conviction and that the conscience of man would no longer be seared.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 1Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,

An ending thought, I had the pleasure of visiting the Brownsville revival many years ago and will never forget seeing how conviction caused people to pile up drugs, pornography, and demonic articles at the alter, and weep before the Lord. There were people randomly coming in from the streets under conviction. It has happened many time in history, and by definition when what I am talking about returned, it was called revival or an awakening. if you are interested let me give a few link. www.revival-library.org/index.php/resources-menu/revival-anecdotes/conviction-of-sin 

In fact, if you have not already done so research 1st and 2nd great awakening and Welch revival and here is a link to my favorite Cane Ridge revival https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV6YPv6ap4A

Jesus deserves so much more than what the earth is giving him right now. With out revival and a return to God the rocks may just cry out! Have Mercy!


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melting potI

Is the United States of America really a melting pot? If you are a product of the 1960 as I am you were at least told that was true. The older you get the more you experience the inaccuracy of that statement. The more you travel outside your little or large community the more you find the inaccuracy. So what is community? In simple language Common Unity. Think of it like this in a community Risk and Reward are shared by a group of people. Lets be honest because you live in the same city or town doesn’t mean the conditions are all the same. Even a city or town is divided, when I was kid growing up in a small town it was the tracks, which side were you from. That was simple and understood by all, oh! its not righteous but just a fact of life. You knew the police were going to act different on how they respond to a call. Risk and Reward it was all there. Every thing in community was based on those two questions, what’s the risk? whats the reward?

I worked for 17 years for one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world and my job was unique. I was a liquid’s compounder, officially you could say Apothecary. I, with my coworkers made 10,000 kilo batches of liquid medicine. Several of those meds were what were called suspensions. What is a suspension? It is simply the solids collecting on the bottom and the lighter liquid at the top and very visible to the eye. On the direction’s would state the amount of time and or energy of shaking to bring the suspension into conformity and ready for consumption. The active ingredient in most cases would be a solid so without shaking water and die would be all you drink, thus no benefit. The Unites States of America I would describe is not a melting pot BUT Compounding Container. If something comes and shakes it up from the outside it can homogenize but only for a short time. We are a nation of historical lines of division. North south Mason Dixon, East West Mississippi Valley, blue state red state, right wing left wing.

Our current political situation no matter which side of policy you stand it might seem clear there is trouble brewing. The highest levels of fear and NON-trust from all sides to the opposing views I have seen, and I have been around a while now. In that context I will shift gears to a dream I had last night. I have not been thinking about this at all, so my dream has produced my current thoughts. Here is the dream.

Congress had changed our Country’s name from The United States of America to America. It had caused a terrible state by state revolt and chaos followed. I found my self in some huge auditorium with people disillusioned by the governmental turmoil. I started to sing and to my amusement sounded good. People began to join in and a strange peace came over the crowd. We sang these three songs in order Smoke on The Water by Deep Purple, then Sweet Home Alabama by Lynyrd Skynyrd then The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot. I got up and looked up all three songs on youtube and one thing for sure all three are classic Rock songs.

I put the dream on facebook just to get a laugh but then I had a side thought the dream might have some prophetic significance.

I started to do research and found some almost weird coincidences to the context of the dream. Meaning the difference between the founding name and a political chaotic situation ending with a release of peace.  

1st song  Smoke on The Water by Deep Purple is a song from an actual event that happened in Montreux Switzerland on the 4th of December 1971 Deep Purple was in the area to record their next album. Across Lake Geneva Frank Zappa was performing in a casino theater and in the crowd a flare gun was shot off, a fire started and engulfed the Casino. The view of the fire over the lake is the real story of the smoke on the water. Several things I find interesting is Roger Glover the bass guitarist for Deep Purple woke from a dream a few nights later with the idea for the name of the song. Next thing is the location.

 Location, Geneva Lake Switzerland, where have I heard that before and does that have any thing to do with this United States of America. YES it’s very founding. The Geneva Bible, there is a load here but will keep it as short as possible. 

The Geneva Bible was carried over on the Mayflower by the Puritans and following separatists who were fleeing Europe’s religious persecution.

Found this quote from Dr. Marshall Foster Advisory Board Member, 1599 Geneva Bible Restoration Project Founder & President, The Mayflower Institute

The Geneva Bible’s Application for Today The Geneva Bible providentially was unleashed upon a dark, discouraged, downtrodden English speaking world, at a time when Christendom was in real danger of regressing to a form of Caesar-worship. A Bible appeared that created the conditions for a Christian reformation of life and culture, the likes of which the world had never seen—its hallmarks including the explosion of faith; an emphasis on integrity; a unique and vital missionary movement; creative literature, economic blessings; and political and religious freedom. By the time of the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588, just 28 years after the first printing of the Geneva Bible, it was already being said of the English that they were becoming a “people of the Book.” Almost 500 years later, our culture is once again desperate for the Truth. Many people have forgotten, abandoned, or rejected the great lessons of the Reformation and the Biblical theology that inspired the greatest accomplishments of Western Civilization. We fervently pray that the re-introduction of this powerful tool of Godly dominion, the Geneva Bible, will, with God’s favor, light the fires for another powerful reformation. As we read this sacred volume, let us remember the sacrifice of the persecuted scholars on the shores of Lake Geneva.

Bottom line Lake Geneva and Smoke on the water has tied to the founding of the United States of America!

2nd song Sweet Home Alabama by Lynyrd Skynyrd.  This song was actually written as a response song to Neil Young as a sort of name check. Neil had done 2 songs “Southern Man” and “Alabama” which called out the extreme racism of the south and Alabama in particular. Neil has always been a button pusher, pick your topic but this time there was something profound. Rock and Roll had its roots in the south, not just the south but southern blues. Let me be blunt, literally Cotton pickers so wore down from generations of slave labor they hardly live yet they sang. Could they sing? Make the hair stand up on your arms and stay there. That’s how they sang and that’s the roots of this music. Neil was a anti war folk singer with an axe to grind, and ready to take on any injustice, BUT he was a musician as was mr Lynyard as in Skynard Ronnie Van Zant. Sweet Home Alabama was picking up on who the south was, and a justification of it’s history, if you will. The song swept the country and is one of the most recognizable songs of all time. If you do not know history and who George Wallace and Richard Nixon were and what they did you will not get the song. Let me just say if this song represents anything it is America is not a melting pot and you can not clean up history, BUT WE CAN CHANGE THE PRESENT AND LOOK TO A BETTER FUTURE. Many of the members of Lynyrd SKynard went down in a plane crash in 1977. Ronnie and Neil had an appreciation for one another, Neil would sing “Sweet Home Alabama” from time to time and Ronnie, I have heard would were a Neil Young shirt, who knows. We from the beginning have lived in a divided nation only the lines have changed.

We as a Nation are divided and history warns us what coming, if we dare listen.


3rd song The Wreak of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot. Who was Edmund Fitzgerald? He was the Chairman of the board of Northwestern Mutual Insurance Company. When the ship was christened Edmund’s wife Elizabeth had to hit the champagne bottle three times over bow to break it. The launch was postponed for over 30 minutes because of crashing waves. During the turmoil a spectator had a heart attack. Quote from the book below saying the ship was “trying to climb right out of the water”. Schumacher, Michael (2005). Mighty Fitz: The Sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. New York and London: Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 1-58234-647-X. It was as if the Ship knew where it would be heading many years later, to the bottom of Lake Superior.  

Gordon throws in this very interesting question in the middle of His historical song.

“Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?

Could that be the question of this generation, in this very hour that we live in? Many would think America is like the Fitzgerald about to sink. For eight years republicans thought the Ship was almost sunk, and now Democrats know how it felt. Here we are as a nation with nothing in common, well maybe that’s not true. Maybe for the first time in several generations everyone knows what it feels like to be in a nation of raging seas. If the nation could figure out “our help can come from God alone, and not a man, or a political philosophy, or any type of news” then, maybe ask that question about the love of God. Could it be found here?

Psalms 107:23-31 23 Some went down to the sea in ships, doing business on the great waters; 24 they saw the deeds of the LORD, his wondrous works in the deep. 25 For he commanded and raised the stormy wind, which lifted up the waves of the sea. 26 They mounted up to heaven; they went down to the depths; their courage melted away in their evil plight; 27 they reeled and staggered like drunken men and were at their wits’ end. 28 Then they cried to the LORD in their trouble, and he delivered them from their distress. 29 He made the storm be still, and the waves of the sea were hushed. 30 Then they were glad that the waters were quiet, and he brought them to their desired haven.
31 Let them thank the LORD for his steadfast love, for his wondrous works to the children of man!

The United States of America is in a very unique place. Much more divided, and need of God’s intervention that most would admit. The Fitzgerald released no distress call. We have name calling, from all sides of debate.

There is one name that will be desired, because it is the only name with the answer. Jesus!


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I was born in 1961 in Independence Missouri. I was embarrassed to admit that for years. Well not for the City, but the hospital, Independence Sanitarium. The 1960’s were times exploding with CRAZY things. Somehow I always felt I took a bit of that with me. When in grade school it was a common theme to be asked where were you born. Most kids would just say the town, city, or maybe the state but NOT me, Independence Sanitarium I would blurt out, and then came the eruption of laughter. This would be followed by words like this. “No wonder you are so crazy” or “that explains a lot”. I came to enjoy it.

Independence Sanitarium


Years later my friend Bill Jones and I had traveling to Wyoming. We pulled over to view Independence rock. I began to read about the western expansion and how wagon trains would leave Independence Missouri for Oregon. Early July they would reach this large Rock outcropping. The story goes if they did not reach this point on the wagon trail by July 4th they were behind schedule. That would have been important, because they had to beat the snows to the mountains that awaited them in the great northwest.


Photo from the national archives https://catalog.archives.gov/id/516895

Independence Day, early this July 3rd 2017 as I contemplated that word I remembered one particular year. I was coming back from Uganda on a mission trip, and had a layover in London England. I was seated next to a very nice elderly gentleman. At some point in our conversation he must have felt comfortable enough to ask me a pointed question. He started it like this. He said “You know this is July 4th, and I just wanted to say happy Independence Day”. I said “Thank you” and smiled. Then with a smile he said, “have you considered that what some people call Independence others call Rebellion.  WOW, No I had never thought of that, but did for the next week or two. It was very difficult to contemplate because I am a bible thumper and this is what came to mind.

1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Wow that was God’s word to Saul 1st King of Israel. Just a tad bit interesting to me being our Independence from England was a system of Kings. Israel had received their 1st King because they rejected God himself as king. Just a bit ironic for me a young man at the time so full of National Pride. I wondered had my freedom become a bit of an idol in itself. The answer is yes.

From that day forward until now this Independence born guy says “I am IN Dependence to Jesus”. That has served as a sort of reality check for me that the whole idea of a king and kingdom for an american is a terrible idea. That said I bow my knee to My king Jesus now and forever more.

I also want to give honor where honor is due. For all those who died to give me the national right to worship God as I see fit I say thank you. In great respect I say that with no reserve even in a time when our nation is so divided. That honor though as it should be is under GOD. With all this said I wrote this poem this morning and it seemed as if I could not have stopped the words from coming. They seemed to come from somewhere deeper than me. Maybe it is from my spiritual DNA from those from whom I came.

My hope is that these words in the poem below would impact you. That they would give a balance to our patriotism and voice to our faith.


A life Dependent on Jesus

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The Effects of our end time view on politics

I have written previously about my personal concern with the Dominion Mandate aka 7M aka 7 mountain belief. I will put the links below to part 1 and 2. This is somewhat of a part 3. I was very much involved in the prayer movement. I noticed a major shift about 20 years ago, in language within the movement that began to confuse me. Most of it had to do with the Dominion Mandate.

Part 1: https://riverflowsdown.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/dominion-mandate-or-salt-and-light-mandate/

Part 2: https://riverflowsdown.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/making-seven-mountains-out-of-seven-mole-hills/

My friend Sean from kC called the other day and brought up something I had been thinking. How would those who held the 7M view relate to the rest of the body of Christ and the world, in the context of politics?

In the liberal side of politics, the opposing view of conservatism and often labeled fundamentalism and thoughts of Jerry Falwell come to mind. That might be true 20-30 years ago but today the 7M view has placed a mandate to influence politics. Not just politics or Government but religion, family, education, media, arts & entertainment, and business. It is a great idea up front. BUT

Here is where trouble comes in depending on the persons end time view. If one believes everything gets better and better until Jesus returns BUT it does not happen. Then theological view would have to change or one would feel pressure overlook things that are bad, and over state things that are ok as great. For the liberal world that is hypocrisy. It is hard to led someone to Jesus when they see a double standard. That is happening now and a little hard to watch the back and forth bickering over what is fake news etc.

What about end time view?

My father was a southern Baptist pastor who had taught me about end times from a historic premillennial view. He had taught me all 4 basic views and the why’s. His view made the most since to me so I stuck with it. I spent about 15 years in the Assemblies of God, and most held a dispensational premillennial view. I loved the people and kept my personal views to myself, and deep down I hope that is the correct view. and that ends up happening. That is my brief history until my 40’s. I went to Grace Training center which was Mike Bickle’s school before IHOP. I took a couple of classes on end times and though Mike B had the same view that I held many of the professors did not. That is what made the school great, it was not a cookie cutter and really gave you tools to study for yourself. It was then I heard the term Amillennialism from someone who personally believed it. That view is most conducive to the 7M view so many are in that camp. I asked many people who believe the 7M view and they were not sure what they believed about end times and that may be worse yet.

I began to realize there were 2 major different world views that Christians held.

  1. The world gets worse and worse and Jesus returns for a pure church but the world is wrecked with increased sin and persecution.
  2. The church gets stronger and stronger and takes over all aspects of society and Jesus returns to world taken over by the church.


View #2 is by far the easiest to think about that would be wonderful if that happened. The problem with that view are 4 hard sections of scripture that seem to indicate #1.

Here are the 4 and there are many more but for me these are the obstacles to things getting better and better.

Luke 21: 7 So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?” 8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them. 9 But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.” 10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. 13 But it will turn out for you as an occasion for testimony. 14 Therefore settle it in your hearts not to meditate beforehand on what you will answer; 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death. 17 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. 18 But not a hair of your head shall be lost. 19 By your patience possess your souls. 20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Commentary: (many believe this all happened in 70 AD with the destruction and sacking of Jerusalem. The problem with that view is immediately after these things they see Jesus coming in a cloud. Jesus did not return so it is safe to say there are future events coming that will make 70 AD look like a walk in the park.)

1 Timothy 3:1-13 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. 10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse*, deceiving, and being deceived.

Commentary: (I choose the king James here because of the word WAX is used. It is a verb not a noun so this has nothing to do with bee’s wax. In the Greek it is Prokopto. The old English verb, wax is akin to the German and Dutch Wachs as the Greek original word meant to beat metal in a hot forge to lengthen it as in the making of a sword. That word is very important to understand the context of the times)

Matthew 24:3-15 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately*, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All* these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


Commentary (Matthews account used the same word wax, but this time to describe the hot love of Christians being beaten out and hearts turning cold. The real key here is found in an end time word seldom talked about, OFFENDED. Wow that word describes America right now as half of the nation is offended and the other half and vice versa. Offense leads to betrayal and we are moving like a freight train in that direction. Misty Edwards wrote as song about this years ago and it really touched me and wrote a blog about it found here.


2 Thessalonians 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore*, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or* our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Commentary: (Many believe this happened in 70 AD but if it did why are we still here? Between the 1st and 2nd letter the church had picked up the view that Jesus had already returned and they missed it so if you had not picked that up read through it again. Paul is answering that Question. He is saying Jesus will not return as Judge until after a Falling away and the man of sin is revealed. As of this moment the man of sin is a mystery. The day is coming when he will be known and I believe the church is here to see it as described above.

WOW, that is a lot, if you are still with me let me now be transparent. I voted for Donald Trump with apprehension at the time. I spent a significant amount of time praying about it and at one point I wept for a prolonged time. My thoughts at this point he is a man that has some good history and bad. I have a strange mix of hope and concern. I am committed to pray for those in Authority and He is and I will. I am interested in the TRUTH and my position will be like an umpire Strike, foul, or hit. I do not want to be hypocritical but patient and gracious. I realize there are great people terrified that Mr Trump may be the next Hitler. I do not believe he is, and think he has the potential to hold back some of the moral decay in America and maybe even reverse some of it. Only time will tell. One thing seems to be for sure, he is an enemy to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT guys and for that I am thankful.

Many are claiming He is God’s man for the hour and saying they heard that from the Lord. Time will tell on that as well. One thing that concerns me is when Cain Killed Able God said his blood cries out. We as Americans have stopped the life of 60 million babies and if that blood cries out then God’s man may be in power for a reckoning.

Like in a marriage we are in it for better or worse, I pray it is better. America Bless God!

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Pirates in the pulpit

It is 9:30 July 1st 2011 and I had a thought while doing a study on the “Golden Rule.” The thought was “Pirates in the pulpit.” I had never heard that before but it was ringing in my ears. I put the phrase in Google and pulled up 4 hits all were of a site that had an audio sermon by Sam Ketcher. I listened to it but it was in a different context of what I was thinking, so here we go on my little journey.

Golden Rule As attributed in the gospels.

Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

When did these scriptures become known as the golden rule? They say in the 1670’s which may be true. I found a book titled the Golden rule published in 1688 so for sure by that time. Pictured below:


A curious thing has happened, something so openly spoken of by Jesus ends up being the biggest secret of the world’s richest men and the most secret societies. The one thing that unites the world’s religions. Below are some examples.


The so called golden rule is a spiritual principal not unlike the law of gravity. The problem becomes when corrupt or even evil people use it for selfish gain or good people use it as a means of salvation. Though a godly principal that works, now seems to give credence to them, not just the principal. I hope to shed some light on how taking this principal into the world who is run by the god of this world “lucifer” has now boomeranged back into the church with a lot of baggage.

The 1900’s had opened the door to the “the new Thought Movement” which in short is the belief that “Infinite Intelligence” or “God” can be tapped into and repeated not unlike science. When those thoughts, became mans thoughts, even miracles would happen. In that circle was a young man named Napoleon Hall. Nap as he was known by as a boy, had lost his real mother when he was about 9. He was a bit rebellious and admired the bigger than life Jesse James. His new mother eventually got Nap to trade his six shooter, for a typewriter. That set him on a journey that ended up in the office of Andrew Carnegie the richest man in the world at the time. Nap would interview him and many of the wealthiest men in the world over the next few years. He discovered several things these men had done in common, they attributed to getting them where they were.

The first I will mention was what they called the “law of attraction” defined as “your thoughts and your feelings create your life.” Remember this is connected to the belief of tapping into “Infinite Intelligence.” Nap explained it after talking to Andrew something like this. You come into this world with 2 envelopes one with riches and blessings that are a possibility. 2nd is an envelope with the penalties for not achieving them. Then He goes on to explain the first 2 things that needed to be done. 1st Make a clear description of your main desire, in the end you will call it success. 2nd Make a clear description of what you are willing to give in return.

WOW , what will you give in return, where have I heard that before? Mark 8:36-37 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Interesting thing happened. Andrew gave the fortune away or at least a lot of it,  at the end some 350 million dollars. When you look at these guys they seem to have made a deal maybe with God, maybe the devil, but a deal none the less. Do a study of the health wealth preachers and you will see them using the same language as these men did 100 years ago. The thing that stands out as different is they are not giving it away in the end. The TV Pulpit empires have become Pirates, and have become islands unto themselves, and a tight circle of friends and family.

My thoughts are 100 years ago men bought a bill of goods that was not fulfilling on the death bed. But what we have today is beyond comprehension, and if they got their idea’s from Hall and Carnegie there will be a piper to pay and it way be sooner than they think, as the world economy spirals downward. Will they have a change of heart and open the treasure chest to the Poor, from where they got it. At least Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave some to the poor.

If you are a Pirate, justice awaits you BUT repent He who created the Gold made the Rules and that is what I call the Golden Rule.  Jesus Rules

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