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Something is stirring in China and it is not good timing with the Olympics starting in a few hours. In Kashgar just a few days ago Islamic Jihadists killed 16 Chinese police officers and wounded another 16. You can check out the story below.

 http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j83e8Y4rma7KzI0c5UDlmxp1AJ8AD92BDD6G0

 

Threats have been made and Muslims have been warned not to attend the Olympics you can read about that below.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/sports/olympics/08china.html?ref=asia#

 

I normally do not pay close attention to the Olympics but several friends have called me and asked if I heard about the killings in Kashgar. Knowing I had been there several years ago they thought I might be concerned. I have combed the web and have come to the conclusion we should take the warnings serious and pray. I found not only the land but the people and culture beautiful. I might confess I was a bit scared being in Kashgar during Ramadan.

 

Kashgar is a hub on the Old Silk Road, a Islamic center in China. The province around Kashgar, borders Tibet to the south, Russia to the north, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. The population is made up of mostly  Uighur, which are Muslim.

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I was part of a small team on a prayer journey along the old silk road better called a vacation. While in Kashgar we stayed at the Seman hotel, “the old Russian consulate.” We went as far as the Pakistan border and had 7 flights in 11 days and found the country amazing. Of course my stories cannot be told but my impression is that these extremist must be taken serious.  

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I have been a student of Church history for some time. I, like many others have noticed a parallel between natural Israel and the Church in the last 100 years. I may not be able to prove this by multiple scriptural texts however there is shown below the idea that Adam was the first natural man and the spiritual man came later, Jesus / Yeshua / יֵשׁוּעַ

  In similar fashion Israel was the natural bride of the Lord and the church being grafted in becomes the spiritual bride.

1 Cor 15:45-48 ,45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

We know that after the destruction of the temple in 70 ad that both the Jews and the church was hunted and persecuted. The dark ages took it toll on both true followers of Jesus and the Jews. After the dark ages came the reformation, and understanding of justification by faith was reintroduced to The church. Layer after layer of truth was rediscovered by the church. At the same time the idea was forming in the hearts of Jewish people to return to their homeland of Israel.

At this point I will loose you if you are a cessationist that is ““the belief that the miraculous gifts such as healing, tongues, prophetic revelation, and supernatural knowledge pertained to the apostolic era only, served a purpose that was unique to the era before the New Testament was complete, and passed from use before the canon of Scripture was closed.”

I believe the gifts are still for today and should be used in accordance with scripture. With this view in mind Theodor (Binyamin Ze’ev) Herzl  founded the Zionist political movement which 50 years later led to return of the Jews to their land Israel. At about the same time revival broke out in Wales and America with pentecostal expression which eventually became corrupt in some cases. Great endeavors to take the gospel to the ends of the earth flowed out of this movement

In 1948 Israel became a nation as Jew’s returned home after 2000 years of exile. At the same time another revival broke out in Canada and spread through out the US and abroad. This movement too became defiled after several years and many distanced themselves from it but not before great advancement was made with taking the Gospel to the four corners of the earth.

In 1967 Israel in the 6 day war expands it territory. At the same time the Jesus People Movement began in 1967  

jesus-movement.jpg Monday, Jun. 21, 1971 : Time “The Jesus Revolution” Quote ;Not so, however, for the vast majority in the Jesus movement. If any one mark clearly identifies them it is their total belief in an awesome, supernatural Jesus Christ, not just a marvelous man who lived 2,000 years ago but a living God who is both Saviour and Judge, the ruler of their destinies. Their lives revolve around the necessity for an intense personal relationship with that Jesus, and the belief that such a relationship should condition every human life. They act as if divine intervention guides their every movement and can be counted on to solve every problem.

1973 Israel in the Yom Kippur War after being attacked overcame and ended up extending her borders to all of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights, and the Sinai Peninsula. At the same time the Charismatic Movement began with Dennis Bennett in Van Nuys, California.

Here we are 2008 the 60 year anniversary of Israel is coming up in May. American President George Bush today January 10th 2008 has called for Israel to return to the pre 1967 war territory / bounderies.

In my recent blog https://riverflowsdown.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/israel-its-borders-should-not-shrink/ I have listed the scriptural evidence for Israel’s borders and warned we must not take part in changing God’s plan. The writing is on the wall, if we force Israel to go down this path, and a peace treaty is signed in May around the 60 year anniversary it will parallel what will happen in the church. We will loose ground if we don’t cry out for mercy. It seems many of the prophetic voices I have respected for years have gone silent about these issues seeing they have made a covenant with the Republican party and have closed their eyes to God’s standard.  I am a conservative republican because of the pro-life platform but the buck stops here for me. I will continue to pray for our leader’s of course, but I will not pretend wrong is right.

It is high time to to cry out for Israel and the Jewish People and that G W hears and listens to Godly counsel. There will be no lasting peace in the middle east outside of the prince of peace Jesus / Yeshua / יֵשׁוּעַ

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As Christians we know that we should pray for the peace of Jerusalem, but what about the borders of the Nation of Israel. We in America certainly have a history of getting involved in things that are questionable. What is questionable is putting pressure on Israel to give up it’s God given borders, it’s just wrong. I strongly believe America has been blessed for our strong relationship with Israel, and helping bring peace is a good thing. However we need to keep our hands off, when it comes to what God has declared, or His wrath could be released. Below I have listed a few verses about Israel’s borders given to Abraham Issac and Jacob. Join with me praying for the Jewish people to have peace including knowing the prince of peace Jesus / Yeshua / יֵשׁוּעַ. Praying also that our presidential visit to Israel does not violate the will of God…….

God gave this land to Abraham and His descendants

Gen 20:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Issac inherits

Gen 26:1-3 1 And there was a famine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto Abimelech king of the Philistines unto Gerar. 2 And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of: 3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;

 
Jacob gets the same promise for all Israel with expansion
 
 
Gen 28:10-15 10 And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. 11 And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep. 12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. 13 And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; 14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. 15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of. 

 

Numbers 34:3-12, 3 Then your south quarter shall be from the wilderness of Zin along by the coast of Edom, and your south border shall be the outmost coast of the salt sea eastward: 4 And your border shall turn from the south to the ascent of Akrabbim, and pass on to Zin: and the going forth thereof shall be from the south to Kadeshbarnea, and shall go on to Hazaraddar, and pass on to Azmon: 5
And the border shall fetch a compass from Azmon unto the river of Egypt, and the goings out of it shall be at the sea. :6 And as for the western border, ye shall even have the great sea for a border: this shall be your west border. :7 And this shall be your north border: from the great sea ye shall point out for you mount Hor.: 8 From mount Hor ye shall point out your border unto the entrance of Hamath; and the goings forth of the border shall be to Zedad. : 9  And the border shall go on to Ziphron, and the goings out of it shall be at Hazarenan: this shall be your north border. :10 And ye shall point out your east border from Hazarenan to Shepham: 11 And the coast shall go down from Shepham to Riblah, on the east side of Ain; and the border shall descend, and shall reach unto the side of the sea of Chinnereth eastward: 12 And the border shall go down to Jordan, and the goings out of it shall be at the salt sea: this shall be your land with the coasts thereof round about.

Here is a recent link to a blog I did on the issue of Boundaries including Israel’s.

https://riverflowsdown.wordpress.com/2017/01/04/put-that-boundary-back/

 

 

 

 

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Iowa the place that dreams come true. Build it and they will come. Build a debate and ask the question “Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?” The news media can’t pass that one up, they come running from every where. Funny how that question is actually in the heart of most conservative Christians. I know I must have been asked that question 10 times in the last several weeks referencing to the possible beliefs of republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Mike Huckabee’s quote from The New York Times, on December 12, 2007 was  ‘‘Don’t Mormons,’’ he asked in an innocent voice, ‘‘believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?’’

Well, well, what have we here, I know The headlines today offer an apology from Huckabee but before we move on to fast did you see the Church’s official response.

A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee’s question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine. “We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all,” said the spokeswoman, Kim Farah. “That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, on the other hand, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind. Satan is the exact opposite of who Christ is and what he stands for.”

What does exact opposite of who Christ is actually mean? Unless you understand what they really believe about begotten, that sounds right. In the mid 1980’s I had the privilege to meet Thelma “granny” Geer who was a 4th generation Mormon, and a great-granddaughter of a Mormon pioneer and polygamist John D. Lee, who was a personal bodyguard to Brigham Young. You should check out what She says on the whole matter of rlds beliefs.

Here is a site  http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=242089537

The recent TV commercials present Mormonism as just another denomination when in reality it is another Jesus they preach. What Romney believes should have nothing to do with Him being president since George Bush being a member of the secret society skull and bones evidently made no difference to Christians in the last elections. I am being facetious, I do believe it matters there is a demonic spiritual realm and if a person has even suttle ties to it then their discernment is very flawed to say the lest.

OK I know I will get some negative feedback on this but let me say just a word of my why. I have spent much time in Uganda they are a nation that has had much blood shed. They have been a nation also plagued by witchcraft. I have personally seen things that most Americans have no grid for and I would not waste my time telling you its just to far out threre. Several X-witch doctors who have become flollowers of Jesus christ, have said they would bow down to the demonic powers in the US because they operate covertly, hidden and in business suits with lots of money where in African it is in your face and fear based. In the US we don’t believe in any thing spiritual good or bad Whether its God or Lucifer they are just out there some where.

Something to Remember 2 cor 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light

We need discernment in this hour Lucifer is not a sexual bi-product of God, inquiring minds will find out what that means! Good Day

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